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Post by katgirl on Mar 26, 2015 22:33:31 GMT -6
They changed their model numbers about 3 years ago.. Each set of digits tells something about the watch, if you know their coding system. On the Omega Forum we would always refer to our watches by their model numbers because we knew exactly what they referred to. No more. Who in blazes could memorize these new ones? I literally have no idea what the model number is of my new Speedy Pro. They even messed with IT. I would have to look at the card, or Google it, to tell you what it is. My guess is that the new system has something to do with the digitalized world in which we now all reside.
Ahhh! Here you go: 3570.50 is now 311.30.42.30.01.005
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Post by rw16610 on Mar 27, 2015 21:29:35 GMT -6
They changed their model numbers about 3 years ago.. Each set of digits tells something about the watch, if you know their coding system. On the Omega Forum we would always refer to our watches by their model numbers because we knew exactly what they referred to. No more. Who in blazes could memorize these new ones? I literally have no idea what the model number is of my new Speedy Pro. They even messed with IT. I would have to look at the card, or Google it, to tell you what it is. My guess is that the new system has something to do with the digitalized world in which we now all reside. Ahhh! Here you go: 3570.50 is now 311.30.42.30.01.005 Wow, I simply can't understand this. 9/10 times when you call an AD to find out a price they'll ask if you have it (which speeds it up considering their lack of knowledge and the insane amount of watches they carry). Half way through reciting those numbers to the sales lady at the AD I felt like saying "You know what, just forget it...". What's worse is she had a hard time hearing for some reason, it seemed loud there. To me this just shows they're catering to people with money to purchase that don't necessarily have the same passion, therefore won't care. Even so, my guess is it's required (the model number) each step of the way. I saw a guy wearing a ceramic Planet Ocean tonight actually (not the Chronograph version that keeps me coming back( and it was nice but didn't look right, at least not on his wrist. I've seen people pull off large Panerai's or Audemars Piguet pieces but the only way to describe the properly sized watch (in regards to the bracelet) is "uncomfortable". There's NO way it could have fit under a shirt cuff, especially with the current styles having a more tailored and tapered fit. Sad to say, Omega WAS the only other brand that appealed to me enough to actually buy several. Now I can't really find anything in their old price range that would be worth buying for me. If that Planet Ocean Chrono wasn't so thick it would get even more consideration. Even if I managed to pull it off, it's certainly a watch I could see myself being thrilled about taking off of my wrist after a long day. That being said I'll still go try it on again but there's no way I would spend that kind of money (considering I had it currently) on an Omega with everything that's been pointed out here. Also, I don't like dealing with Swatch Canada and the Omega AD's here. I've always gotten better service and response times from the others.
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Post by Baco Noir on Mar 27, 2015 22:07:25 GMT -6
Rommel, you have good points on the ADs not knowing the model numbers, but in their defense, Omega has made it too complicated. The first series of numbers is the base model, the second is the diameter, and then from there it includes info on the strap/bracelet and more. It's a great "code" for them, but not for the buyers and ADs. Breitling has gone the same way.
I also agree on the thickness, which I believe is primarily due to them putting sapphire casebacks on them. I believe it was Archer who pointed out that the movement thickness has increased somewhat, but not to even come close to justifying the new thicknesses.
Like you, there are several models I am attracted to, but without a decrease in thickness and a significant discount, I won't be buying a new Omega anytime soon. My SM300 is a perfect balance of old and new for me and scratches my Omega itch well.
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Post by katgirl on Mar 27, 2015 23:07:32 GMT -6
It's not a coincidence that both of my modern Omegas are Speedmasters. I wore an Orange PO for almost 5 years, and I really did enjoy it. However, it was top heavy, and that was before Omega designed their coaxial all Inhouse movement, and it became even thicker. Even the latest ATs are too thick, because of the space needed for the 3 tiered movement. I think my next watch will be another Rolex, or perhaps a Tudor. I am glad I have my Speedies, but can't see myself buying any other new Omegas.
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Post by rw16610 on Mar 28, 2015 14:14:05 GMT -6
@baconoir & katgirl Check out this comparison shot a Watch U Seek member posted: From - "ramiodat"'s Photobucket Both 9300 versions of the Planet Ocean (the bezel itself seems extremely thick and high) From - "ramiodat"'s Photobucket From - ablogtowatch.com This is how it looked on my wrist at the AD From - breitlingsource.com From - breitlingsource.com Although those pictures above focus on the Planet Ocean they're an accurate reflection of every "new" Omega I've ever seen in person over the last few years. Like Kat said, the AquaTerra's seem WAY too big now (and thick). If it wasn't that thick it might be a lot easier to pull off. There's no way these watches will look good with as many outfits as a properly sized , more versatile watch. Wearing long sleeves with these will be a huge pain, and trying to glance at the time while wearing a jacket of any sort won't be fun. The guy I spotted wearing the non chrono Planet Ocean (that looked like a wall clock on him) had his sleeves rolled up. This could also be because he had no other choice thanks to the enormous skyscraper of a watch on his wrist. Regardless to money, I think having a watch that'll be easier to wear and goes well with any outfit is rather straightforward. Both Rolex and Omega (in the past) experienced great sales success with such watches. Anything else seems to become a pain or tiresome as we all age and fashions change. Not to mention, the folks who want a watch that flies under the radar without screaming "LOOK AT MY WRIST!" from 30 feet away.
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Post by katgirl on Mar 28, 2015 20:26:53 GMT -6
As for my 2500 series PO, I wore it proudly. I loved the Orange accents. However, as you said, tastes change, and when I finally got my 16610, I found it to be much more comfortable, and even aesthetically more pleasing. I like everything about it, including its 40 mm size. Omega just doesn't have any current models that appeal to me. I loved the look of the AT, but it was just too thick.
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Post by rw16610 on Mar 29, 2015 17:37:03 GMT -6
I'm sorry, I still can't get over this (the length of these model #'s): From - luisdelgadolaw.com This gives me no regrets for my past actions (not as if I ever had any anyway). What's really sad though is the fact a lot of other brands don't have Chronograph watches where you can actually use the pushers down to the depth rating. I've always wanted an Omega chronograph but the need and desire for a more refined piece prevents this from ever happening. You know there's a problem when our resident Omega ambassador somewhat gives up on the brand due to these changes. One good thing though, they finally stopped using those pins in the bracelets. They're strong but if you ever sized one yourself and seen how flimsy they look (removed) you'll never be able to look at the watch the same way again. This happened to me with my Planet Ocean and I kid you not, after adjusting the bracelet I was so scared it would fall off of my wrist. Thankfully this never happened though!
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Post by katgirl on Mar 29, 2015 17:50:11 GMT -6
I used to be just as big an Omega fanatic, as Carl. I have even owned one of his flipped watches. I have had several dozen different Omegas, all of the Seamaster variants in midsize and full size, many different iterations of the Speedmaster, 2 different POs, 3 or four Speedy Pros, numerous ATs, from both generations. At the end of all my flipping, only the Speedies survived the cut. I took my collecting in a new direction, including many boutique brands, several quality German brands, and lots of Seikos. It is only the past year or two, that I have finally started picking up modern Rolexes. At this point, I literally have too many watches. I may start to sell off the less expensive pieces, just to keep the collection more manageable. It is hard to wear all of these watches. But it's sure fun trying. As for the new bracelets, they are a huge PITA to size. The screws on either end of the pin are so ridiculously tiny, that it is not an easy task. If you drop one, good luck finding it again. I think I misplaced three, out of the 8 from the links I removed. I wish Omega had gone to a real screw link system, like Rolex.
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Post by Baco Noir on Mar 29, 2015 18:17:08 GMT -6
Speaking of our resident Omega ambassador, did I miss something traveling last 2 weeks? Is carl on vacation? Haven't seen him posting lately.
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Post by rw16610 on Mar 29, 2015 18:23:06 GMT -6
I used to be just as big an Omega fanatic, as Carl. I have even owned one of his flipped watches. I have had several dozen different Omegas, all of the Seamaster variants in midsize and full size, many different iterations of the Speedmaster, 2 different POs, 3 or four Speedy Pros, numerous ATs, from both generations. At the end of all my flipping, only the Speedies survived the cut. I took my collecting in a new direction, including many boutique brands, several quality German brands, and lots of Seikos. It is only the past year or two, that I have finally started picking up modern Rolexes. At this point, I literally have too many watches. I may start to sell off the less expensive pieces, just to keep the collection more manageable. It is hard to wear all of these watches. But it's sure fun trying. As for the new bracelets, they are a huge PITA to size. The screws on either end of the pin are so ridiculously tiny, that it is not an easy task. If you drop one, good luck finding it again. I think I misplaced three, out of the 8 from the links I removed. I wish Omega had gone to a real screw link system, like Rolex. WOW! You've had your share of Omega watches. This makes perfect sense though because I remember seeing you on WUS many years back in that section. Another reason to enjoy things while they last, looking back on things that was their golden era in my opinion. Out of those watches the Speedmaster would indeed be the one(s) to hang onto for a while. For me less is more in that sense. I'm in love with Seiko ans only see myself realistically buying another Rolex at some point. If things really go well with me then an Audemars Piguet will be added to the collection one day. Living in USA you're set! Domestic shipping to one of the largest markets out there! It sucks for us because we'll have to pay all kinds of duties and such typically. Just about anything can be found on TRF's FS section within the USA right now, most of which only ship to the continental US. Shipping international with watches can be a royal pain so I can see why they'll do this. Don't ever look back, Kat. If you're enjoying these other brands like Seiko, Rolex, and the German ones there's no need for anything else really. For me with a couple of Rolex watches and a few Seiko's I'm set for life. Omega should take note of the fact they're losing people such as yourself, Carl and MANY more I'll guess. I've always just used one of my Sea-Dweller tool kits to size my Rolex and it's SO easy. Never had the chance to actually size those new Omega bracelets and it'll likely stay this way. My obsession for my favourite brand has been burning within for 13 years thus far. Nothing else has been able to match them for numerous reasons. These companies will have to offer more benefits and after sales service considering where the prices are headed. Even with inflation factored in, they've far exceeded this looking back on the last 50 years or so.
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Post by rw16610 on Mar 29, 2015 18:24:29 GMT -6
Speaking of our resident Omega ambassador, did I miss something traveling last 2 weeks? Is carl on vacation? Haven't seen him posting lately. Yeah! I've been wondering that myself. Haven't seen him or ianmedium around for a while now.
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Post by katgirl on Mar 29, 2015 19:23:26 GMT -6
I've been waiting for him to check in, too. Wanted to compare notes about something relative to our new model # Speedies. I haven't seen Ian post lately, either.
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Post by iceman on Mar 30, 2015 15:34:13 GMT -6
Ian posted on FB the other day
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Post by Baco Noir on Mar 30, 2015 16:26:35 GMT -6
Ian posted on FB the other day I'm not connected with him there. Tell him we miss him and hope everything is ok.
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