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Post by rigsby on Sept 30, 2018 5:06:24 GMT -6
I'm not sure what to do with my wife's Rolex Datejust.
Some years back, when I was lacking in knowledge about Rolex watches, i.e fake parts etc. I decided to buy a 6917 Datejust. I then found out it has a fake dial and bracelet, and it now runs extremely fast. So my dilemma is, do I send it to Rolex to have all new original parts fitted including a service. I can find similar watches on the internet for around £2500.00, but I'm sure all the replacement parts are going to cost me more to have replaced. The bracelet is a 18k TT, so I'm expecting this to be pricey for starters and the dial has 11 diamonds. Why am I changing the current bracelet, well it's splitting and also damaged. I have tried local places for servicing, but after a year it starts running fast again.
So do I sell it as parts? keep in mind, it's not genuine, so Ebay is out of the question (already had a warning). A jewellers is not going to give me very much.
Do I pay Rolex what they want and keep the watch, knowing it's like new. I'm thinking the repairs are going to be over £2k, with the bracelet.
I have emailed Rolex today for a quote.
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Post by Archer on Sept 30, 2018 7:05:33 GMT -6
Last time I priced out a TT Jubilee for a ladies Rolex was back in 2015, and that was for a 69173. At that time it was $2850 US for the bracelet alone, so not cheap at all, and I doubt they have lowered the price since then. Add in factory service plus a new dial, and this may very well end up being more than the watch is worth.
If the case and movement are definitely genuine, you could always remove the fake bracelet, have someone local remove the dial and hands, and just sell the movement and case on eBay. Ladies watches are not typically in huge demand, so that means parts for ladies watches are also not in huge demand, but it may get some money back for you.
Otherwise, bite the bullet and send it in, and at least your wife will have a nice, fully genuine, working model. Note that if she agrees you could get a dial without diamonds to lower the price of the service...
Good luck!
Cheers, Al
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Post by rigsby on Sept 30, 2018 7:44:48 GMT -6
Last time I priced out a TT Jubilee for a ladies Rolex was back in 2015, and that was for a 69173. At that time it was $2850 US for the bracelet alone, so not cheap at all, and I doubt they have lowered the price since then. Add in factory service plus a new dial, and this may very well end up being more than the watch is worth. If the case and movement are definitely genuine, you could always remove the fake bracelet, have someone local remove the dial and hands, and just sell the movement and case on eBay. Ladies watches are not typically in huge demand, so that means parts for ladies watches are also not in huge demand, but it may get some money back for you. Otherwise, bite the bullet and send it in, and at least your wife will have a nice, fully genuine, working model. Note that if she agrees you could get a dial without diamonds to lower the price of the service... Good luck! Cheers, Al Thanks Al. I appreciate what you're telling me and the info about the bracelet. I'm thinking the same, about it costing more than it's worth.
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Post by Baco Noir on Sept 30, 2018 9:07:43 GMT -6
You could buy a used watch with the right bracelet with a dial you like too and then get a jeweler to swap parts before sending it to Rolex for service but that’s still likely to cost a bundle. That way it’s still “her watch” if she cares about that kind of stuff.
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Post by rigsby on Sept 30, 2018 9:13:16 GMT -6
You could buy a used watch with the right bracelet with a dial you like too and then get a jeweler to swap parts before sending it to Rolex for service but that’s still likely to cost a bundle. That way it’s still “her watch” if she cares about that kind of stuff. I could, but the only thing that's going for the idea of new, is that it will be new. Do you know what I mean? It sounds crazy, but apart from the movement and case the watch will be like new.
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Post by Baco Noir on Sept 30, 2018 9:22:57 GMT -6
Yeah I do. If she’s up for a replacement, I’d just go that route and then see if you can sell the extra parts.
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Post by aerome on Sept 30, 2018 20:55:54 GMT -6
If you send it in for service, Rolex will replace the hands and crown regardless of the condition. I say find an authentic dial have someone install the good dial into the watch and send it in sans bracelet. Sell the diamond dial and find either a classy strap or go with an Italian bracelet replacement. Your old bracelet is worth something too.
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Post by rigsby on Sept 30, 2018 22:40:56 GMT -6
If you send it in for service, Rolex will replace the hands and crown regardless of the condition. I say find an authentic dial have someone install the good dial into the watch and send it in sans bracelet. Sell the diamond dial and find either a classy strap or go with an Italian bracelet replacement. Your old bracelet is worth something too. Thanks, I've thought about that also. Hopefully I should get a quote from Rolex today and this will put weight on my decision.
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Post by rigsby on Oct 1, 2018 9:05:12 GMT -6
Rolex want me to send the watch in, so they can quote it. They have told me the service just on it's own is £600. Now add the bracelet, dial, hands and hairspring and I think I'm looking at around £3600. Looks like I might just be selling it for parts.
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Post by aerome on Oct 1, 2018 18:27:08 GMT -6
Rolex want me to send the watch in, so they can quote it. They have told me the service just on it's own is £600. Now add the bracelet, dial, hands and hairspring and I think I'm looking at around £3600. Looks like I might just be selling it for parts. Hands and spring will be normal part of the service. The dial is where they'll get you. Plenty of those out there. You could probably score a good bracelet too but it's your choice.
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Post by rigsby on Oct 1, 2018 22:02:57 GMT -6
Rolex want me to send the watch in, so they can quote it. They have told me the service just on it's own is £600. Now add the bracelet, dial, hands and hairspring and I think I'm looking at around £3600. Looks like I might just be selling it for parts. Hands and spring will be normal part of the service. The dial is where they'll get you. Plenty of those out there. You could probably score a good bracelet too but it's your choice.
I'm just worried about getting scammed on non-genuine parts and how much I should pay for them.
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Post by aerome on Oct 2, 2018 5:31:33 GMT -6
Hands and spring will be normal part of the service. The dial is where they'll get you. Plenty of those out there. You could probably score a good bracelet too but it's your choice.
I'm just worried about getting scammed on non-genuine parts and how much I should pay for them. If you're not in a hurry I'm sure someone knowledgeable would offer to help. Bracelet is the high dollar item. Once you decide on that I think it would be smooth sailing. Also, have you compared all the pre-owned prices out there? Remember, whatever you buy will need a service and unless recently service by Rolex, you may get stuck with something as good as what you have. Lastly, since the ladies TTDJ are plentiful on this side, are you planning a trip to the Colonies, soon? Or maybe the list's courier could bring one out to you on his next weekend visit! :-)
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Post by Baco Noir on Oct 2, 2018 8:13:28 GMT -6
Hands and spring will be normal part of the service. The dial is where they'll get you. Plenty of those out there. You could probably score a good bracelet too but it's your choice.
I'm just worried about getting scammed on non-genuine parts and how much I should pay for them. I can understand the trepidation. If you want to keep and refurbish “her watch” in lieu of buying another, maybe the best bet is to research and buy a used bracelet using Paypal before sending it in for service and then immediately send it in for service. You could also see if any pawn shops have a bracelet and pay buy credit card for buyer protection. Rolex will tell you 1) the dial has to be replaced and 2) whether or not the bracelet is real. You can file a PP or CC claim if it’s not, but then would they service just the watch head or make you buy a bracelet at full price? I don’t know the answer to that one. If you buy from a trusted source and it proves to be genuine, they will polish both the case and bracelet to bring it back to like new condition and you get to choose your dial color, or at least I presume you do. Did Rolex say anything about options on replacing the dial? Man, as I wrote this I see all the potential pitfalls. Unless she’s attached to “her watch” I think I’d look to source a nice used one and move on. It might be a good time to get her to try on some of the slightly larger ladies DJs. Is her’s one of the 26mm version? After getting a 34mm Omega, Laurie quit wearing her 26mm and eventually sold it. She was hesitant to go bigger initially, but can’t go back now. So maybe this is the opportunity for Maggie to go up to the 31mm version if she’s not already there.
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Post by rigsby on Oct 2, 2018 9:32:58 GMT -6
I'm just worried about getting scammed on non-genuine parts and how much I should pay for them. If you're not in a hurry I'm sure someone knowledgeable would offer to help. Bracelet is the high dollar item. Once you decide on that I think it would be smooth sailing. Also, have you compared all the pre-owned prices out there? Remember, whatever you buy will need a service and unless recently service by Rolex, you may get stuck with something as good as what you have. Lastly, since the ladies TTDJ are plentiful on this side, are you planning a trip to the Colonies, soon? Or maybe the list's courier could bring one out to you on his next weekend visit! :-) Thanks Al, for all your input on this. You and others are making the same noises about pre-owned. I'm starting to think this maybe a better idea, I'm so worried about getting another one like this. I like the idea of breaking it down and selling the case and movement, once it's gone to the jewellers to be separated. The bracelet, I will see what it's worth as scrap gold and just take off the deployment.
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Post by rigsby on Oct 2, 2018 9:36:06 GMT -6
I'm just worried about getting scammed on non-genuine parts and how much I should pay for them. I can understand the trepidation. If you want to keep and refurbish “her watch” in lieu of buying another, maybe the best bet is to research and buy a used bracelet using Paypal before sending it in for service and then immediately send it in for service. You could also see if any pawn shops have a bracelet and pay buy credit card for buyer protection. Rolex will tell you 1) the dial has to be replaced and 2) whether or not the bracelet is real. You can file a PP or CC claim if it’s not, but then would they service just the watch head or make you buy a bracelet at full price? I don’t know the answer to that one. If you buy from a trusted source and it proves to be genuine, they will polish both the case and bracelet to bring it back to like new condition and you get to choose your dial color, or at least I presume you do. Did Rolex say anything about options on replacing the dial? Man, as I wrote this I see all the potential pitfalls. Unless she’s attached to “her watch” I think I’d look to source a nice used one and move on. It might be a good time to get her to try on some of the slightly larger ladies DJs. Is her’s one of the 26mm version? After getting a 34mm Omega, Laurie quit wearing her 26mm and eventually sold it. She was hesitant to go bigger initially, but can’t go back now. So maybe this is the opportunity for Maggie to go up to the 31mm version if she’s not already there. Thanks Roger, you have also given me lots of feedback on this. As I just said to AL, you are all saying the same thing, about pre-owned. You have also hit on something me and Mag's were talking about, and that is a larger model. The current one is 26mm. very small for seeing the date. I don't know enough, on what to look for with fakes etc.
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