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Post by Nicko on May 19, 2015 7:03:20 GMT -6
A pizza dial? Now, that's a new one in me.
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Post by Kiwi on May 19, 2015 13:22:00 GMT -6
A pizza dial? Now, that's a new one in me. Yeap, this is the next stage from the STARDUST Dial, caused by the radiation from the Tritium on glossy black dials. First there are, guess You can called it little bubbles on the gloss dial which in some cases develop to little craters but the term for this is Pizza Dial. BTW: All these terms I can only refer from Submariners, never gone into other models or watches.
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Post by CHIP on May 19, 2015 16:22:03 GMT -6
A pizza dial? Now, that's a new one in me. New to me too but it made me hungry.
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Post by Baco Noir on May 19, 2015 19:11:44 GMT -6
A pizza dial? Now, that's a new one in me. Yeap, this is the next stage from the STARDUST Dial, caused by the radiation from the Tritium on glossy black dials. First there are, guess You can called it little bubbles on the gloss dial which in some cases develop to little craters but the term for this is Pizza Dial. BTW: All these terms I can only refer from Submariners, never gone into other models or watches. Funny that to me the pizza dial seems like a defect that may degrade further over time yet others see it as increasing the value. I tend towards the vintage dials that are lightly faded but still in good shape. Others look for ones that look like they've been stored in a toolbox on the back of the pickup truck for decades.
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Post by aquajoe on May 19, 2015 19:28:59 GMT -6
I do like the cream rail dial explorers (16550).
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Post by Archer on May 20, 2015 7:04:05 GMT -6
I have to say, I find all the nicknames sort of annoying in some ways. I realize they serve a purpose just for simple ease/efficiency of describing something to those who understand them all, but they do bother me on 2 levels...
1 - As has already been mentioned, the name sometimes gives legitimacy and maybe false rarity to something that is just a defect. On OF people were talking about Speedmaster DON bezels, and what the prices are doing recently. One person showed one for sale that was really beat up with spots of the black missing all over it, and I said that all you had to do is give a cool nickname like "Meteor bezel" and keep posting that name in forums for a few months, and the value of that bezel will go up just by giving it a nickname. I said it in jest, but then people started calling them meteor shower bezels...oy!
2 - On a more personal/business level for me, I get emails and requests from people all the time for service and advice, using these nicknames that I have no clue what they really mean. Not just for specific features, but also for watch models. Now I have to either ask for clarification, or spend time researching what they really mean before I can give them answers.
On another level, knowing the nicknames means understanding all the little details and what they mean. If anyone here is familiar with the book Moonwatch Only, the level of detail that has gone into just this one series of watches from just one company is amazing. The book is an invaluable resource for vintage Speedmaster collectors. It's big, and just cover the evolution of this one model (and just the real Moonwatches, not the hundred other watches with the name Speedmaster in the name that Omega has milked...err...made over the years) so the amount of information needed to identify if dial, hands, pushers, crowns, case, movement, etc. are correct is pretty staggering.
To be able to know all the details of every brand and model out there is just impossible. In one way it's good because I guess more is known about the variations in the watches than ever before, but it really means that as a collector you sort of need to specialize in just one model or brand, because knowing enough to make a good decision across many brands or models is pretty tough.
Anyway, just rambling...sorry!
Cheers, Al
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Post by carbon6 on May 20, 2015 7:28:49 GMT -6
If you call that rambling, then keep rambling. I appreciate your insight on this and learn from your inputs.
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Post by CHIP on May 20, 2015 13:09:54 GMT -6
It's the good kind of rambling! Keep on rambling Al.
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Post by Baco Noir on May 20, 2015 13:51:50 GMT -6
If you call that rambling, then keep rambling. I appreciate your insight on this and learn from your inputs. It's the good kind of rambling! Keep on rambling Al. I totally agree and am glad to know I am in good company not knowing all the names for these variations.
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Post by botsie on May 20, 2015 16:05:04 GMT -6
Buck Rogers for the rubberised bezel on some Breitlings. I still can't get used to that term. ?. Great thread Roger.
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Post by Baco Noir on May 20, 2015 16:13:53 GMT -6
Buck Rogers for the rubberised bezel on some Breitlings. I still can't get used to that term. ?. Great thread Roger. Got a pic?
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Post by rw16610 on May 20, 2015 17:02:03 GMT -6
Great idea for a topic! Things are starting to make a lot more sense already.
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Post by botsie on May 21, 2015 2:11:09 GMT -6
Buck Rogers for the rubberised bezel on some Breitlings. I still can't get used to that term. ?. Great thread Roger. Got a pic? No, sorry roger. I don't own one, but it's anything with a coloured bezel, some in red or green or black. You can spot them easily as the former version was probably in stainless and the later versions look like they are plastic rubber or some other synthetic material. Some like them other don't. I'm ambivalent. Another one for the list is 'pie pan' sub dials. I got it immediately when I first read it, but thought it was rather an odd association with cookery. But it seems to work as there no mistaking sunken sub disks looking like deep dish pans. ?. Why not pizza pans?
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Post by Baco Noir on May 21, 2015 8:06:09 GMT -6
No, sorry roger. I don't own one, but it's anything with a coloured bezel, some in red or green or black. You can spot them easily as the former version was probably in stainless and the later versions look like they are plastic rubber or some other synthetic material. Some like them other don't. I'm ambivalent. Another one for the list is 'pie pan' sub dials. I got it immediately when I first read it, but thought it was rather an odd association with cookery. But it seems to work as there no mistaking sunken sub disks looking like deep dish pans. ?. Why not pizza pans? Yeah, the pie pan dials makes perfect sense, and I see the connection to pie over pizza since pie pans have the raised lip to create the edge of the pie crust.
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Post by rw16610 on May 21, 2015 16:11:38 GMT -6
There's so much to appreciate about those "pie pan" dials. Classic watch designs never grow old it seems and this has to be why so many have been rehashed.
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