From Omega Promoter to Naysayer in a couple short years
Jul 5, 2017 6:36:48 GMT -6
CHIP, carl, and 1 more like this
Post by Archer on Jul 5, 2017 6:36:48 GMT -6
Hi Carl,
While everyone is certainly entitled to look at the new products through their own particular lens, I think this model is really nothing new for Omega. It's not a real departure from what they have done in the past and surely not a sign of the apocalypse. Most people have no clue how many different watches Omega makes, and they have always been very prolific in the number of designs they made. Although this design doesn't suit me certainly, IMO it's far from being a sign that Omega have lost their minds. By the way they do state the design inspiration for the oval sub-dials on that page:
"Inspiration for this design comes from the oval subdials that OMEGA used in the past on several of its De Ville timepieces."
So this is essentially a Speedmaster automatic with date model, a line that has always included some whacky designs and countless variations. This is simply a continuation of that very extensive line that uses the 7750 based chronograph movement. One of these looks like the traditional Speedmaster Pro with black dials, white hands, black tachy ring, but the vast majority don't - they are oddball dials and colours.
People simply don't understand the variety that is already out there and has been for years. To give you just one example, if I go on the Omega Extranet and look up the Cal. 1151 movement (used in a lot of these auto date Speedmasters) there are 9 different versions of that movement. I can perform a reverse search to see all the watches those movements are used in, and if I add the total number of different watches produced it's 195. 195 different models using that movement, and I would guess most people have only seen a small fraction of this. Note that this doesn't include the models with the Cal. 1152, or 1155...so the Speedmaster auto with date line is already massive.
The difference is that people are now more aware of all these variations coming out, where in the past it would not be so widely known. This is not a new strategy for Omega - it's always been this way with more models that you can shake a stick at, even going back to the 50's, 60's, 70's, etc.
From my own perspective, not much that Omega makes has excited me for quite a while. But everyone has different tastes, and Omega is chasing the market they feel is most likely going to be profitable. Remember the customer being pleased is only a side effect of making money for shareholders - people on forums often forget these are large corporations and are profit driven. I know the Rolex fans will tell you all about it being owned by a charitable trust, but it's still a for profit company and run as such.
I can tell you from my own experience making my line of watches, it's very difficult to please people in terms of the design. The most common email I get asking about a purchase of one of my watches usually starts by saying how much they love my designs, and then there's a "but" where they ask to change the design completely.
You can't please everyone.
Cheers, Al
While everyone is certainly entitled to look at the new products through their own particular lens, I think this model is really nothing new for Omega. It's not a real departure from what they have done in the past and surely not a sign of the apocalypse. Most people have no clue how many different watches Omega makes, and they have always been very prolific in the number of designs they made. Although this design doesn't suit me certainly, IMO it's far from being a sign that Omega have lost their minds. By the way they do state the design inspiration for the oval sub-dials on that page:
"Inspiration for this design comes from the oval subdials that OMEGA used in the past on several of its De Ville timepieces."
So this is essentially a Speedmaster automatic with date model, a line that has always included some whacky designs and countless variations. This is simply a continuation of that very extensive line that uses the 7750 based chronograph movement. One of these looks like the traditional Speedmaster Pro with black dials, white hands, black tachy ring, but the vast majority don't - they are oddball dials and colours.
People simply don't understand the variety that is already out there and has been for years. To give you just one example, if I go on the Omega Extranet and look up the Cal. 1151 movement (used in a lot of these auto date Speedmasters) there are 9 different versions of that movement. I can perform a reverse search to see all the watches those movements are used in, and if I add the total number of different watches produced it's 195. 195 different models using that movement, and I would guess most people have only seen a small fraction of this. Note that this doesn't include the models with the Cal. 1152, or 1155...so the Speedmaster auto with date line is already massive.
The difference is that people are now more aware of all these variations coming out, where in the past it would not be so widely known. This is not a new strategy for Omega - it's always been this way with more models that you can shake a stick at, even going back to the 50's, 60's, 70's, etc.
From my own perspective, not much that Omega makes has excited me for quite a while. But everyone has different tastes, and Omega is chasing the market they feel is most likely going to be profitable. Remember the customer being pleased is only a side effect of making money for shareholders - people on forums often forget these are large corporations and are profit driven. I know the Rolex fans will tell you all about it being owned by a charitable trust, but it's still a for profit company and run as such.
I can tell you from my own experience making my line of watches, it's very difficult to please people in terms of the design. The most common email I get asking about a purchase of one of my watches usually starts by saying how much they love my designs, and then there's a "but" where they ask to change the design completely.
You can't please everyone.
Cheers, Al