lowin
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Post by lowin on Mar 8, 2007 3:29:50 GMT -6
Hi all, first I would like to apologize for my bad English. I’am Lowin and i come from Germany (Cologne) For few times ago i had build a chronograph. Since this time the chrono do his work at my wrist. I had intended to build an series from this watch but unfortunately it was not succesfull becaus of few things. Now i build two new watches. And this time i shall build a series from this two watches. The name of the watches are “ALL AREA I” and “ALL AREA II” By this watches, the form follows function and therefore this will be a very strong watch. Some Info's about the Watch. 1.) Waterprotect...I hope about 3000feed. I think the very thick Saphir glas(convex 5mm) will show the Limit because the diameter is very great(38mm). 2.) The Lunette will be hold from 12 screws he get trough the the Watch bottom and the Watch case. And the Lunette hold the seal above the glas with a step in it. Therefore the Glas is protect against below atmospheric pressure. 3.) The Dial will be milled without a block 4.) The Glas and bottom seal is from PTFE (better known as TEFLON) 5.) Watch bottom is 4mm thick. 6.) Multiple sealed screwed crowne(I think it is also waterprotected if the crowne not in save position) 7.) The case material is very tough. The material is not rusting, acid-proof and high seawater fit. It’s the same material that use the brands of high quality for very high quality watches. 8.) The Band is leather with kevlar inlays(at the moment i have to proof the feasibility ) 9.) Automatic movement ETA 2824 10.) Case diameter 47mm, height 17mm The reason why i build this watch is………..do what ever you want, the watch should be indestructible. Please take a look at my construction and tell me your opinion about this project. Ideas and suggestions are welcome. ALL AREA I ALL AREA II - Lowin -
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lowin
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Post by lowin on Mar 8, 2007 3:33:02 GMT -6
The material 1.4539 is very tenacious and relative hard. It is not good processible. Only with hard metal it is possible to cut this material. HSS-Tools are complettly uninteresting here. Additional i take spezial cutting oil for cutting. This material will be used from the manufacturer from watches of high quality. The material property's(bad cutable) justify the high cost's from steel watches. The hig material price comming additional. The properties from this material is excellent to watchbuilding. 1.) absolute stainless 2.) acid resistant 3.) high see water resistant 4.) tenacious 5.) hard 6.) good to polish - Lowin -
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lowin
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Post by lowin on Mar 8, 2007 3:35:32 GMT -6
Now the outer contour is finished up to 90%. The inner countour is not twisted due to outer manufacturing. So i can save the next among process. The next process is to manufacturing the watchfloor right now and the drilling, they hold the watchfloor, the case and the lunette together. At picture’s you see the watch case with the watch bottom. if i have finished with the drillings, further information follows. Regards - Lowin
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Post by atomic on Mar 8, 2007 10:47:17 GMT -6
Very interesting... so you're making this yourself? Like milling the cases, making the dials, etc>?
How many are you making and what's the pricepoint?
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Post by mamas on Mar 8, 2007 11:38:18 GMT -6
Hi Lowin! welcome to the forum. Your watch looks very interesting . I think i prefer Lowin 1 in terms of design. Will the numericals be raised like in the picture or will they be luminova?? i guess luminescence is important at night to make the watch more useful. If this watch is 1000m waterproof, are you making it into a dive watch? have you thought about design of bezel, which it will require if you are going to make it a dive watch?? I am not so sure about the hands in lowin 2, they dont suit the watch. Maybe plongeaur hands like the omega ploprof would look better?? like in this watch: www.ocean7watchco.com/
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Post by atomic on Mar 8, 2007 11:45:10 GMT -6
Hi Lowin! welcome to the forum. Your watch looks very interesting . I think i prefer Lowin 1 in terms of design. Will the numericals be raised like in the picture or will they be luminova?? i guess luminescence is important at night to make the watch more useful. If this watch is 1000m waterproof, are you making it into a dive watch? have you thought about design of bezel, which it will require if you are going to make it a dive watch?? I am not so sure about the hands in lowin 2, they dont suit the watch. Maybe plongeaur hands like the omega ploprof would look better?? like in this watch: www.ocean7watchco.com/Excellent points. I think the hands should be changed if possible. As Mamas said, it gets pretty dark down at 1000m (lol) so lume would be vital. I'm assuming there's no rotating bezel because of the difficulty to manufacture? No worries from me though... my Panerai is the original dive watch and doesn't have a rotating bezel... ... which may explain why so many Italian divers got the bends in WWII.
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Post by Adam on Mar 8, 2007 12:04:23 GMT -6
I actually really like the design of the watch , but the size is way too big for my tastes. With all of the specs you detailed it seems to be a very serious dive watch, please keep us updated on new developments
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lowin
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Post by lowin on Mar 8, 2007 12:24:08 GMT -6
thank you for your friendly words. atomic, yes i make it all by myself except the automatic movement. Dial and dialring bezel crowne case screws etc. Glass is a spezial saphir Glass only produced for this watch seal( i made that out of PTFE better known as TEFLON) etc. For the first time i made 15 watches. To find a price is very difficult. If i sell the watch without a middleperson i guess the price would be around between 1750$ and 2500$. If i sell this watch over a third person(jeweler etc.) the price have to be around 4000$. But yet i have no made a real calculation and so the price can change(less is possible....more, i think not). mamas, the numericals will be rased and will be with luminova. The watch is a watch for everybody(not only for divers). She have e.g. a special glass with a step in it. So the glass can't be lost by loss of pressure(like a a high quality flightwatch). The bezel is not a rotating bezel because the construction with the screws go through all prevent a rotating bezel" see picture below". The hands are not the final hands. I'am search for now for the perfect looking hands(natural with luminova :-)) Thank you for your advice's and ideas. - Lowin -
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Post by lowin on Mar 25, 2007 12:56:48 GMT -6
Hello, for a test i build the watch together with the not finished components and a printed testdial. Now i could make me a general impression. Unfortunately it looks like that the numbers of the dial are not in harmony with the watch. The reason is that the numbers are to near at the case boundary. Now i have to design a new dial with not supreme numbers(it's a construction problem). If the new design ready, i present it here and then i will pleased you to get your opinion. But for the first, again few new Pictures from the status of the watch. - Lowin -
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artec
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Post by artec on Mar 25, 2007 13:12:44 GMT -6
May I suggest using indicators instead of numbers? Easier for placing and luminova I should think. Like Adam, though, 47 mm is way too big for me...... 39 or 40 mm is about my limit! Very interesting project, impressive work and nice finish. I wish you the best of luck.
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artec
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Post by artec on Mar 25, 2007 13:20:24 GMT -6
Please don't apologize for your English..... first off, we understand you perfectly, secondly, it's a hell of a lot better than my meagre German at any rate, and I expect that of most of us. A very impressive and interesting project and a nice solid design, though 47 mm is way too big for me. What about using indicators instead of numbers? I think they would be easier to make, easier to mount and easier to apply luminance to ? If the case material is so difficult to machine and it's all hand-made, I think your price will have to go up, even with a bought in movement. I wish you the best of luck in your brave undertaking!
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lowin
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Post by lowin on Apr 1, 2007 14:03:25 GMT -6
The new design is without great changes, but as we know, the little things can effect great things(or opposite). How ever, please tell me your opinions and censure(agreement is welcome also :-)) - Lowin -
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Post by atomic on Apr 2, 2007 6:12:40 GMT -6
I quite like it as is with one exception. The hands.
I think if you put sword hands on it, the effect would me more aggressive, which would be in keeping with the general look of the watch.
Otherwise... tres cool!
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Post by mamas on Apr 2, 2007 11:44:00 GMT -6
I agree with Johnny.. i think sword hands liek in vintage ploprof or the ocean7 watch link i posted would look better
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Post by Sam on Apr 5, 2007 15:49:51 GMT -6
Overall, that's a pretty cool looking watch!
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